Comments on: Step One http://www.nacronline.com Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:24:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Haroutioun Jobanian (Mashdots) http://www.nacronline.com/articles-on-the-twelve-steps/an-introduction-to-the-twelve-steps/step-one/comment-page-1#comment-11867 Haroutioun Jobanian (Mashdots) Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:34:48 +0000 http://www.christiansurvivors.com/cri/nacr/wordpress/?p=32#comment-11867 Once again thank you for these information and especially for the guideline for our spiritual journey to know and to live God's love. Actually I do have some cases in my courier where I will use these 12 steps in order to help them in searching the Truth that is Jesus' love that for our sake to took on Himself the burden of sin. I would like to make some addition for the passage where it says. "Now we must learn to admit the truth. The Bible puts a high value on telling the truth: “Each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor” (Ephesians 4:25). That is a good point, but actually before Saint Paul stated that, we read from the Book of Genesis from the first story of human beings, the lack of telling the truth. When God asked Adam where you have been from Chapter 3, Adam tried to hide himself, and when God asked him have ate the forbidden fruit, instead of telling the truth, he said, "The woman that you gave me, she gave me to eat". (Gen 3.12) Once again thank you and may God bless you. Mashdots Once again thank you for these information and especially for the guideline for our spiritual journey to know and to live God’s love.
Actually I do have some cases in my courier where I will use these 12 steps in order to help them in searching the Truth that is Jesus’ love that for our sake to took on Himself the burden of sin.
I would like to make some addition for the passage where it says. “Now we must learn to admit the truth. The Bible puts a high value on telling the truth: “Each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor” (Ephesians 4:25). That is a good point, but actually before Saint Paul stated that, we read from the Book of Genesis from the first story of human beings, the lack of telling the truth. When God asked Adam where you have been from Chapter 3, Adam tried to hide himself, and when God asked him have ate the forbidden fruit, instead of telling the truth, he said, “The woman that you gave me, she gave me to eat”. (Gen 3.12)

Once again thank you and may God bless you.

Mashdots

]]> By: Lillian http://www.nacronline.com/articles-on-the-twelve-steps/an-introduction-to-the-twelve-steps/step-one/comment-page-1#comment-7901 Lillian Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:07:09 +0000 http://www.christiansurvivors.com/cri/nacr/wordpress/?p=32#comment-7901 I, too, can say, I love this site!!! I am just starting the 12 Step program, and this has brought welcomed clarity to what the first part of Step One is all about. I appreciate also your application to, not only addictive substances, but also behaviors and thought patterns...and especially as you interject God's wisdom from His Word. So thank you so much for the richness of this site. I plan to take full advantage of its resources as I make my journey through the Steps. I, too, can say, I love this site!!! I am just starting the 12 Step program, and this has brought welcomed clarity to what the first part of Step One is all about. I appreciate also your application to, not only addictive substances, but also behaviors and thought patterns…and especially as you interject God’s wisdom from His Word. So thank you so much for the richness of this site. I plan to take full advantage of its resources as I make my journey through the Steps.

]]> By: Robin Berg http://www.nacronline.com/articles-on-the-twelve-steps/an-introduction-to-the-twelve-steps/step-one/comment-page-1#comment-3325 Robin Berg Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:31:37 +0000 http://www.christiansurvivors.com/cri/nacr/wordpress/?p=32#comment-3325 I love this site!!! I am in a 12 step fellowship (NA) and am currently working Step 6. I found the breakdown of Step 6 on this site extremely enlightening and helpful. I plan to use this site to enhance my journey with God and I believe that as long as I work these steps, my life will only get better. Thank you for posting this information. Thank you very much. There is one thing I would like to bring to your attention....in the interest of accuracy about Narcotics Anonymous. You state that in the 1st Step of NA, we use "addictive substances" as a substitute for alcohol. That is not correct. What we actually say is that "We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable." The use of the word addiction, we believe, is a more complete term. Yes, NA does focus it's primary attention on the stopping of using mood altering, mind changing chemicals (including alcohol) but our application of the 12 steps is designed to treat the entire person...to be life changing if you will. And to say that we are powerless over addictive substances, I think, diminishes the scope and impact of what NA is about. (I am not a spokesman for NA...this is my personal observation.) I do not want to split hairs about terminology, however, I believe that God has given the world 12 step recovery as a means to bring many back to Him and I think that "narrowing the spotlight" to a single term might prevent someone from finding that path. I realise that it is God who ultimately heals us but I believe also that we need to be the best stewards of his tools as possible. I say this with no malice in my heart....only love for God, and for the suffering addict, who, without programs like this would otherwise be hopeless. Again, I thank you for this information. I intend to refer to it as I continue to work the steps and grow in my recovery. I also intend to share it with my church with the hope that we can begin this journey as a body. God bless you all. Robin I love this site!!! I am in a 12 step fellowship (NA) and am currently working Step 6. I found the breakdown of Step 6 on this site extremely enlightening and helpful. I plan to use this site to enhance my journey with God and I believe that as long as I work these steps, my life will only get better. Thank you for posting this information. Thank you very much.
There is one thing I would like to bring to your attention….in the interest of accuracy about Narcotics Anonymous. You state that in the 1st Step of NA, we use “addictive substances” as a substitute for alcohol. That is not correct. What we actually say is that “We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.”
The use of the word addiction, we believe, is a more complete term. Yes, NA does focus it’s primary attention on the stopping of using mood altering, mind changing chemicals (including alcohol) but our application of the 12 steps is designed to treat the entire person…to be life changing if you will. And to say that we are powerless over addictive substances, I think, diminishes the scope and impact of what NA is about. (I am not a spokesman for NA…this is my personal observation.)
I do not want to split hairs about terminology, however, I believe that God has given the world 12 step recovery as a means to bring many back to Him and I think that “narrowing the spotlight” to a single term might prevent someone from finding that path. I realise that it is God who ultimately heals us but I believe also that we need to be the best stewards of his tools as possible. I say this with no malice in my heart….only love for God, and for the suffering addict, who, without programs like this would otherwise be hopeless.
Again, I thank you for this information. I intend to refer to it as I continue to work the steps and grow in my recovery. I also intend to share it with my church with the hope that we can begin this journey as a body.
God bless you all.
Robin

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